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January 27, 2006

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Yehudit

Palestinians and Israelis talk in person every day. I don't think that's the problem.

Also there is more assymetry in the motives and goals of the two peoples than you acknowledge. Israel has been trying much harder to make peace (wihtout being subjugated or slaughtered) than the other side.

rony

I have no doubts that there are significant asymetries between the two peoples -and I think that most of the world will acknowledge that Israel would like to make peace with its neighbors without compromising its security. Many would also agree that the other side has not had a stable response to realistic peace compromises. No question that Hamas is about as extreme and dangerous as you can get.

However, the idea is not just the Palestinians & Israelis talking in person - where the discussion fades. It is also about putting the collective discussion into the world in a persistent manner - and opening up the arguments to critique and inputs from all over. What if the average Palestinian heard from hundreds of global citizens directly that perhaps the idea of destroying their neighbor needs to go away - that these thoughts are not going to be accepted in the world anymore. The Palestinians may need an influx of ideas from all over that will counter the monotonic mantra of groups like Hamas: "destroy Israel - nothing else matters". Guess what - a lot of other things matter - and should matter. The very idea of destroying another nation has no place in the 21st century and the citizens of the world need to open their voices and make that loud and clear - these thoughts and movements need to end.

Why does a bright Palestinian teenager prefer to blow himself up over getting a good job with a software company? Who is deciding these fates and creating an environment of being brainwashed? They need a rapid and open influx of ideas that counter the absolutist positions they seem incapable of backing down from. They need to be able to step out of their context and see a wider world, a broader vision - and rebel against their parents and the idea that suicide and death and endless terrorist war = a life. This is not a life - they need help recognizing that.

In WW2 it required a US nuclear attack on Japan to wake up the citizens that remained that the ideas of their Emperor and their collective visions of world domination were over. The cult spell was broken - and Japan entered the world in a different light. The Palestinians are heading in this direction - they are choosing to essentially be violently destroyed - like the Japanese wrongly chose - until massive destruction opened up a few minds. Let's wake them up first by other means - we already know the outcome of the other path. Israel is a serious nuclear power - the entire Palestinian population could be wiped out if Hamas decided to try and act out its words - Israel will not let Hamas's vision happen.

The Palestinians must choose a different path - and the world needs to help them do this - quickly. They are under a false delusion - as many people can become when their information is limited and their minds opened to only one form of essentially poisonous ideas. The sad thing is that they are threatening a neighbor who instead of becoming a friend, ally, and business partner - will be forced into the kind of position the US was in during WW2 - which is to use extreme destruction until there basically are no more proponents of that idea. They are creating their own doomed reality - and they need help recognizing this.

The Hamas election puts in public view the serious nature of the state of mind of an entire people - the world needs to intervene. This is not democracy or freedom - this is an exposure to the world about how screwed up everything and everyone really is over there.

-R

Yehudit

"The Palestinians must choose a different path - and the world needs to help them do this - quickly. They are under a false delusion - as many people can become when their information is limited and their minds opened to only one form of essentially poisonous ideas."

Unfortunately, the "world" (the antiglobalist antiwar Left, the UN, the EU, the Arab bloc) has mostly encouraged their homocidal fantasies and shows no sign of stopping. Palestinians are relatively educated in the Arab world and have access to ideas: most of them are not in dire poverty, many have relatives overseas, many do spend time in Israel which is a very open society, so they can surf the net, read newspapers, talk to people who are different, etc.

The people most of them choose to listen to don't challenge their self-pity and scapegoating, but instead use them as proxies with which to invalidate the Jews.

"The Hamas election puts in public view the serious nature of the state of mind of an entire people - the world needs to intervene."

So far, the "world" has been doing the opposite; it has been enabling, not intervening. in a way it's a good thing Hamas won, because it makes the situation so obvious maybe some of "the world" will step back from the brink. But still many make excuses for Hamas, so who knows what it will take?

Yehudit

Exhibit A:
http://blogs.salon.com/0001561/2006/01/28.html#a8815

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